funny, besides you did anybody else realize this?

if they are the tri racing short, yeah those are a little thinner, not sure why. there is another pair pearl izumi shorts that is a bit thicker, don't remember the model right now, i'll have to look. I wear a pair of sugoi shorts and they don't seem to be as see through.

I use the Orca's and currently don't have a problem with them being see through. However this only depends on the color of the short for the Orca's. I first had a pair of light gray and I now have a bunch of race pictures which I can't show the family. However, the black shorts appear to be ok.

I love my Pearls. at $45, theyre not a bad deal, mine lasted me three season, but I only wear em for races and the occasional brick. I use some Desoto short I got on sale for $10 (got 2 pair) for most of my bricks and short rides. The Pearls are definately nicer than the Desotos. If I had to do it all over again, I do it the exact same way. I will be buying another pair of Pearls for this season.

Oh, and the pool will destroy any tri short pretty quickly. For swimming, I use cheap, generic running shorts I got on sale. Theyre pure nylon, much tougher than poly/spandex blends.

I too had the pearl izumi race shorts, and yes, they did become see through something about the chlorine breaks them down. I now use the 2xu shorts and they work like a dream!

Do all of you guys not swim in speedos?

Funny, I had the exact same thing happen with those same tri shorts. I've since switched to TYRE tri shorts for training/racing.

definetely wearing a speedo in the pool. I occasionally will wear an old pair of tri shorts if I discover that my speedo is see through, and need something to wear.

Jammers in the pool = basketball shorts while running = cartoon character jersey on the bike

Not cool. I didn't write the rules, I just follow them. :D

So does that mean when I run in my scooby-doo basketball shorts I am pretty much the lamest thing ever, or does it follow the double negative rule and elevate me to the same level of coolness as Chuck Norris.

I'll preface this by saying I have no idea how things are in Gainesville. But at my pool, we have exactly 1 guy who wears a Speedo. He warms up by spinning his arms on the deck for about as long as he swims, sports a scraggle gray white man 'fro and uses a pull buoy 100% of the time once he actually starts swimming.
If that's what the kids are calling cool these days, I'm very much OK with being the opposite.

But what the hell do I know, I also use a fuel belt on any run longer than 10 miles...

I feel your pain (except maybe on the beer thing).....but here's the $1M question:

Do you look good doing it? :D

While I agree with most of what your saying Matt, I do however disagree on one point

Jammer do not equal basketball shorts in the pool
Board shorts = basketball shorts in the pool

don't mean to offend but just remembered what my coach told me the first/only day I showed up in board shorts.

Coach: Chris you like camping?
Me: um yeah sure why?
Coach: Cause you'll be swimming with a tent on your @ss today

Sounds like Dan enjoys chafing. I bet you wear undies under your bike shorts, too! ;)

MMMMM. . . Nothing like a good chafing early in the morning!

I just can't imagine running in board shorts. Guess that makes me a tri snob.

This is why we hang out in forums, because only the truly cool people are here! The rest are so uncool that they just don't understand! I'm sure there is a T-shirt slogan that we could come up with regarding this. As long as that t-shirt is breathable and doesn't chafe. Oh, should also probably have some cool sponsor logo's on the back so we look like pros. Matching running shorts would be good also and maybe a hat and . . .. . . .

Ok then, how about a tri top? Or something like underarmour? Maybe we could get you a crop top so nothing is in the way of your fabulous abs?

either that or a wife beater!

80's mesh half shirts, cut off sweatpants, high tops with the laces never tied, parted down the middle hair that covered the ears and collar. Ah memories.

Running with mesh basketball shorts on is a timeless kind of cool.

I had a pair of transparent cycling knickers. Very thin for summer made by Castelli. Boy, that was embarrassing! My swim suit gets that way eventually too! I like 2XU as it fits well but they too wear down like everything else.

Matt - I just noticed that your elite-o-meter has moved up to 67%. Congrats! (I'm sure that this is old news, I haven't been paying attention for a while).

When my elite-o-meter reaches or my body fat reaches 10% I'll join the speedo club too.

Sugoi is the best that I have found

I still swim in Speedos, I have been able to keep my bodyfat levels low (in spite of all the beer) and I feel I've earned the right to look like an 80's retro geek, at least an in shape geek. Haven't raced in them in a long time though. Maybe this year, just once.......
For racing, I can only wear the Desoto tri shorts, my legs are big and muscular, and the Desotos don't have those aweful leg grippers that cut into my quads. The silver ones get a little see through when wet. Desoto used to make red tri shorts, would really love a pair, but they don't make them anymore. And yes, I know, the new Forzas come in red but I don't like that black stitching that "outlines the package", also I like the mid-thigh length of the older model Desoto tri shorts. Done a ton of internet searches with negative results, anyone know where I can still find these?

Thanks for the suggestion Kylie, will give it a try.