Quantcast

Jumping in the deep end

trainDaBrain's picture
Posts
491
Member
1681 days
started by trainDaBrain on November 1, 2004

Did it.

Entered my info, and clicked submit.

October 15, 2005 - CaliforniaMan will be my introduction to the world of iron distance races.

Holy crap for crap.

ted's picture
Posts
61
Member
1766 days
ted posted 4 years ago.

cool stuff :)

Deejay's picture
Posts
143
Member
1769 days
Deejay posted 4 years ago.

Thats awesome. Im signed up for IM WI next sept. We'll have to swap training tips.

"Tough times dont last. Tough people do."

pace_john's picture
Posts
39
Member
1485 days
pace_john posted 4 years ago.

That is very cool. How many other tri's have you done? How long have you been doing them? I would like to try an Ironman distance some day, but need some more experience and training. Keep us informed how your training is going.

John

“A man who says it can’t be done is generally interrupted by someone doing it.”

trainDaBrain's picture
Posts
491
Member
1681 days
trainDaBrain posted 4 years ago.

Not very many. One half-ironman, 3-4 international distance races, and a few 8-12 hour length adventure races. Don't forget the grueling sport of ULTIMATE FRISBEE (said in booming monster truck rally voice). That's basically interval training for two hours straight.

Anyway, I've got a family tradition to uphold as my mom and step dad have both qualified and completed the Kona race, twice. So in my family, I've got to step it up a little to get any attention, oh the life of a child of over-achieving parents!

allenttu's picture
Posts
13
Member
1680 days
allenttu posted 4 years ago.

Good going TDB, nothing like looking back up in the deep end and seeing where you've got to go. I'm thinking a frisbee in your special needs run bag to get you through that last 13 miles. Nothing like a frisbee flying by the persons head in front of you to distract them long enough to fly by them. Good luck with the training and let us know how it goes.

annietrick's picture
Posts
61
Member
1653 days
annietrick posted 4 years ago.

TDB- go on with your bad self! :) i know you can do it. good luck and keep us posted.

:) annie

michaelrobinson's picture
Posts
49
Member
1591 days
michaelrobinson posted 4 years ago.

TDB - good luck in your first IM distance tri. It looks like we have a few things in common when it comes to our first IM (I'm doing IM WI in '05) and holding up family traditions. My mother, father, mother-in-law, and father-in-law have all done IM HI (as well as other IM) and now it's up to me to continue the tradition. Hopefully I'll be able to do IM HI some day, but I'll start with IM WI for now.

I just wanted to let you know that there's someone else out there in you same boat and is rooting for you and training right along with you (I'm also a part-time Adventure Racer as well).

Good luck with your training and maybe I'll see you in the IM HI someday.

trainDaBrain's picture
Posts
491
Member
1681 days
trainDaBrain posted 4 years ago.

I think we have enough for a support group: "Surviving Over-Achieving Parents and How to Beat their Ironman Finish Times" or: "Growing up with a mom that runs faster than you"

It's got to have some pyschological affect dont you think? We should get together and compare notes. We could always start an adventure racing team comprised soley of people whose parents routinely kick their butt in athletic events. ;)

The question really becomes: whose mamma is faster? Just kidding. We don't need that kind of competition. But it might be kind of interesting, kind of like battle bots, sending our parents out for intense competition, winner takes all kind of thing. But that's messed up.

Take care and happy training!

-Brandon

michaelrobinson's picture
Posts
49
Member
1591 days
michaelrobinson posted 4 years ago.

You've hit on some very good points here. As a young kid my initial goal was to beat my mom in the local road races and once I met that goal I set my sight on my dad. It at least was a point of motivation for us growing up. Who knows, if we didn't have that kind of motivation we may not be where we are today.

My mom is actually a big reason why I'm doing what I'm doing. Back in the early through mid 80's she was an Olympic qualifier in the marathon ('84) and won just about every triathlon in the midwest(I believe she placed 10th in IM HI in '82 or '83). In 1990 she had a ski accident that tore her knee apart and required reconstructive surgery to repair. To this day she's never been the same and is now a 8 - 8:30 min. pace jogger and a casual bike rider. In her hayday she was a dominant biker and a sub 7 min./mile marathoner so it's quite a dramatic change for her(she's always been very competitive). In my mind I'm doing this IM for her as well as for me. She'll be there when I do IM WI and I hope she gets as much out of it as I do.

It's amazing how much influence your parents have on you isn't it. I was finally able to get my dad back into competition last year at the multi-event multi-day race called Max-O-Mania. I'm not sure how many tri's he'll do but he is planning on doing that one again. He's over 50 and still has that competitive spirit in him. I think he likes the AR's better than the triathlons now though. Have you been able to get your parents involved in AR's? If they're looking for another challenge, you can't beat the excitement of AR's(as you already know).

One sad thing for me is that if things go well for me I could be in the 10 hour range at IM WI, but that still won't beat my dad's time from IM HI in the early 80's. Isn't that sad that with all the technological advances in today's bikes and nutrition that I still can't get by his time(he was a better swimmer than me). Oh well, I'm sure we'll both have a blast doing our first IM, and I'm sure our families will be very proud to watch our success as they understand what it takes to get through one of those races. Good luck and let us know how your race goes.

trainDaBrain's picture
Posts
491
Member
1681 days
trainDaBrain posted 4 years ago.

Hmmm, your mom sounds pretty fast NOW. That's awesome. She could be faster than my mom. But don't tell my mom that. :D

Well my training program is slowly ramping up. It's the end of the 2004 season, just completed my first half-ironman, and my first marathon. With the momentum and the mental groundwork laid, I'm feeling confident about mapping out the next 11 months.

The plan is to work with a more structured, periodization set of cycles. I'm planning for 3 peaks next year, hopefully each peak an improvement on the last.

First and foremost is injury prevention. Really focusing on taking the time off, and not be a slave to either the schedule or the sensation that I should go hard when I should really back off and enjoy.

I've got April, July and October as the target peak months. Then I'm constructing a sinewave-ish curve from those peaks, adjusting expected weekly hours building up and preceding the dates.

The next phase of planning is determining what the weekly goals should be. This is the first time that I've felt this organized about an athletic event, and it might be verging on overkill ( i usually wing it ) but it feels right this time.

michaelrobinson's picture
Posts
49
Member
1591 days
michaelrobinson posted 4 years ago.

Well it sounds like you've got this thing figured out. You've put a lot more thought into this next year than I have, but that's great. I think you've got the right idea though when it comes to training. Keep it fun, but make sure you're goal oriented in the end. That's the approach I'm taking (I'm no expert by any means) and that's what works for me.

I have 4 big events to "peak" for next season. Moab Xtreme Adventure race(April), Halfmax(half IM - June), Max-O-Mania(5 events in 3 days - end of July), and IM WI (Sept. 11). I'll also be doing some smaller triathlons, but those will be just for training purposes.

Maybe our paths will cross one of these day(maybe in IM HI sometime). Best wishes for the coming year, and remember when all else fails, you've still got your family behind you. :)

panchotri's picture
Posts
287
Member
1852 days
panchotri posted 4 years ago.

man oh man. Deejay, michaelrobinson and TDB, you are an inspiration fountain. Let us know how your training goes.
pancho

infinIT 1's picture
Posts
20
Member
1475 days
infinIT 1 posted 4 years ago.

Congrats gents. Let me know if you need any help on the nutritional side. All the training in the world will not overcome bad fuel.
Folan

KPrice's picture
Posts
49
Member
1641 days
KPrice posted 3 years ago.

I'm gonna find an IM distance race to do for my 40th birthday (2008.) This means I am on a multi-year training plan, which is about appropriate, because my mamma is WAY faster than I am. Good for you for going for it.

PrinceofClydes's picture
Posts
1790
Member
1529 days
PrinceofClydes posted 3 years ago.

Event Date: Sat Sept 24, 2005

280 days to go TDB, how's the training?

Have you scheduled a marathon before the IM, say in June?

PoC

"Pain doesn't last, chicks dig scars, glory is forever!"
- Shane Falco.

Deejay's picture
Posts
143
Member
1769 days
Deejay posted 3 years ago.

do u recomend doing a marathon as training for the ironman? im doing one in sept and have a couple marathon choices picked out in april but ive heard that its not a good idea to do one because it takes away from the ironman training.

"Tough times dont last. Tough people do."

trainDaBrain's picture
Posts
491
Member
1681 days
trainDaBrain posted 3 years ago.

hey POC!

yup, i have a marathon scheduled, but I'm not registered for an official race. I was planning for a marathon in April, an adventure race (18-24 hours) in June, a double-century and another AR or half-ironman sometime in July, the birth of our NEWBORN BABY in August!!, some tapering and some late nite feedings and then the race!

Training is going well, this week has been a low mileage, recovery week, and next week I'll start picking up the hours again. I'm focusing on my running right now, but I'm really going to start working on my bike endurance. My wife's master's thesis is just about finished, and we still have this major travelling to do (which will limit the bike time, so that's when I'll be focusing on running and open water swims.

The new born has added a whole new dimension to the process, and one that i am TOTALLY excited about!

PrinceofClydes's picture
Posts
1790
Member
1529 days
PrinceofClydes posted 3 years ago.

Good to hear things are going well tdb. Congrats on the new addition.

Deejay, I am entered in IM Canada Aug 28th and I have a marathon scheduled May 22nd on the IM marathon course. I need to pay more attention to my running to ensure that I can finish the IM.
The marathon is 3 months from the IM so it won't hurt and it gives me an intermediate target.

PoC

"Pain doesn't last, chicks dig scars, glory is forever!"
- Shane Falco.

Deejay's picture
Posts
143
Member
1769 days
Deejay posted 3 years ago.

I love running so much that i decided even if it does take away from ironman training, i am going to do a spring marathon. My running club is doing the country music marathon in Nashville, TN so I think Im going to go ahead and do that. Its April 30th. I think i'll have plenty of time to recover by the IM.

"Tough times dont last. Tough people do."

infinIT 1's picture
Posts
20
Member
1475 days
infinIT 1 posted 3 years ago.

Deejay. Come on down to The Flying Pig in Cincinnati. Almost 10,000 runners and getting bigger every year. A really fun race. Tons of crown support running in some awsome neighborhoods in Cincinnati.
5K, 10K, half marathon, 2 person teams for the full and the full marathon.

Deejay's picture
Posts
143
Member
1769 days
Deejay posted 3 years ago.

I have heard that the flying pigs is a great marathon but im probably going to do nashville just because its a little earlier in the season and my running club is taking a bus trip there so i'll know lots of people in it.

"Tough times dont last. Tough people do."

PrinceofClydes's picture
Posts
1790
Member
1529 days
PrinceofClydes posted 3 years ago.

infinIT 1 wrote:
.. Tons of crown support running in some awsome neighborhoods in Cincinnati..

There are awesome neighbourhoods in Cincinatti? Who knew. Is that where Loni Anderson lives?

just kidding.

infinIT 1, perhaps you can tell me how to eat 7,000 calories in one day while covering 140 miles at breakneck pace and not be too nauseous to run? How much in liquid, how much in condensed bars, fruit, etc.
I can't eat 22 power bars in one day. :)

PoC

"Pain doesn't last, chicks dig scars, glory is forever!"
- Shane Falco.

cedriclburden's picture
Posts
58
Member
1901 days
cedriclburden posted 3 years ago.

I plan on doing Ironman Brazil 29 May, and love running as well. After reading "Going Long" they recommend that if you are training for the Iron distance, you shoud not train any runs longer than 2 hours. I actually read this after running the Atlanta marathon on Thanksgiving day. Hope this helps!!

Cedric L. Burden
a.k.a C-Murder

Nothing is impossible for the person who does not have to do it.
--Author Unknown--

infinIT 1's picture
Posts
20
Member
1475 days
infinIT 1 posted 3 years ago.

PrinceofClydes wrote:
There are awesome neighbourhoods in Cincinatti? Who knew. Is that where Loni Anderson lives?

just kidding.

infinIT 1, perhaps you can tell me how to eat 7,000 calories in one day while covering 140 miles at breakneck pace and not be too nauseous to run? How much in liquid, how much in condensed bars, fruit, etc.
I can't eat 22 power bars in one day. :)

PoC

That's easy. 32 bottles of Gatorade and 10 Big Macs. No Problems! :eek:

Really, no one will get 7,000 cals. 2-2,500 or so on the bike. 1,200-1,500 on the run. But I can GUARANTEE you that I can do that for you and not need gels or salt tabs and no stomach issues..